This is Part 2 of the 3-part interview with the artists behind the river documentary called River Ties. In Part 1, we met the minds behind the project. In this installment, Matt and Guy discuss what it takes to make a documentary; the logistics behind the adventure; and why the project is on Indiegogo.
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Guy: It runs mostly in Wyoming and Utah with a small loop into Colorado near Dinosaur National Park. It dumps into the Colorado river in Canyonlands in southeastern Utah.
HCRB: What was the motivation for creating River Ties?
Guy: We are friends with this group and I’ve never introduced anyone to them that hasn’t liked them. I think we both wanted to do a film project at the time and the opportunity of the trip last fall and a great subject emerged.
Matt: I came in a little more removed from the group, but had met a few of them on a ski trip and was instantly impressed by the level of respect between them. All I knew after that trip was “Hmmm…how can I get invited on their next one?” These people are honest and highly entertaining.
HCRB: How easy are the logistics for a big River Adventure?
Matt: Complicated.
Guy: There is a ton of gear, required and otherwise, that the group has to have, not to mention permits. Fortunately there is very little of it we have to do but it requires lots of lists, spreadsheets and coordination.
HCRB: How are you embracing “Leave No Trace” for the River Ties Project?
Guy: Regulations are very strict on western rivers, we have to pack out everything, trash, food waste, and poo.
HCRB: What has been the most difficult obstacle to overcome thus far?
Guy: Off river, the toughest part has been paying for the project. We are passionate about creating a great story with grand visuals and so far have been self-funded. On the river, it’s keeping everything charged with the few hours of sun we have in the canyon.
Matt: We are trying to film every waking moment so that means we are the first ones up and the last ones to bed. Not only do we have to focus on the documentary but we are expected to pull our weight in the group.
HCRB: Why are you looking for funding?
Matt: We are looking to deliver a very professional production of River Ties and discovered some of our shortcomings on the last trip.
Guy: A great example (of a shortcoming) is our sound setup. We recorded out of camera and picked up a lot of unusable stuff. This trip, we plan on having a professional setup that records separate of the camera. So we wont miss a beat!
HCRB: How does the Indiegogo format work?
Guy: Basically we pay Indiegogo a percentage of what we bring in but it costs more than twice as much if we don’t reach our goal. So we have a huge incentive to get there.
HCRB: Who else is supporting the project?
Guy: We have some support from Dynamic Earth in Springfield MO via some solar equipment and such, but we definitely need help outside of them.
Matt: Beyond that, we’ve got a ton of support from our friends and family morally and otherwise.
HCRB: What if someone can’t help fund the project, what are other ways to support River Ties?
Guy: The biggest thing they can do is to spread the word. Share the project and campaign with everyone you know! Also just keeping up with the project, we’ll be releasing new videos throughout our Indiegogo campaign along with photos from the trip.
HCRB: How does a big group stay sane on a project like this? 
Guy: Part of what makes this group awesome is how well everyone clicks. I think we test their patience more than anything.
Matt: One of the guys was actually weary of us at the beginning of filming but by a few days in, he told us he was impressed with how serious we were about the documentary. But in all reality we couldn’t ask for a better group to work with.
HCRB: What kind of drama will we see in River Ties?
Matt: We hate to be cliché but you will just have to wait and see.
HCRB: It’s just water…how does the river “tie” the group together?
Guy: These people come from all different backgrounds and in many respects, don’t seem like they would even get along. But taking trips down rivers has created a bond between them (that is) tighter than family.
HCRB: How many hours of raw footage do you come home with?
Matt: Not sure how many hours we had, but we had almost 300 gigs of content last time. This year we’ll have more cameras and expect to have two to three times that amount.
HCRB: How long does it take to turn out the feature film and what is the hardest part of editing?
Guy: It will probably take us two to three months of pretty solid work in post and the hardest part is the days of sorting through all the footage to see what you actually have. As glamorous as it sounds, sitting behind a computer 18 hours a day for two to three months, you’ve got to be passionate about what you’re doing.
HCRB: Why should someone who loves the outdoors watch River Ties?
Guy: Aside from the incredible canyon backdrop that a majority of people will never see, I think anyone who loves the outdoors can appreciate the passion these people have for doing what they love in nature and the joy of being able to share that with their friends.
This concludes part 2 of the interview with Guy and Matt. Look for Part 3 in the coming days where Matt and Guy share their river expertise and tips to help you decide if you want to embark on a river adventure..
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